PLANNING
COMMISSION
DESIGN
REVIEW
MINUTES OF
MEETING OF JANUARY 12, 2005
MEMBERS
PRESENT: Alan Seymour, Pete Griffin, Ken Kraus,
Don Bergwall and John Cunningham.
There are two vacancies.
OTHERS
PRESENT: Eric Phillips,
The
meeting was called to order at 6:40 pm.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The minutes of December 20, 2004
were approved as presented.
NEW BUSINESS:
Coleman’s Crossing Signage
Scheme – Three
signs to be located along S.R. 33;
Steve Kelly, Bear Creek Capital,
reviewed the proposed signs for the Coleman’s Crossing subdivision. He stated the Board of Zoning Appeals
approved the S.R. 33 sign as requested – 55’ in height. The Charles Lane and Industrial Parkway
signs were approved to be 38’ in
height with 8’ wide cabinets as opposed to the 45’ tall/10’8” wide cabinets
requested. These three signs will
present a uniformity appearance in the development. The proposed maximum 9’ tall monument
signs will be used for individual lots in the Coleman’s Crossing subdivision in
lieu of the 25’ in height signs that are permitted by the sign ordinance. They will be low ground mounted
signs. They will be consistent
throughout the development being green in color that will blend with the
buildings being presented. Will have landscaping underneath signs. They will be constructed in Reserve
areas that are designated as such on the final plat for Coleman’s Crossing. The property management for the
development will maintain them. On
the individual properties, the monument signs will be maintained by the
businesses. The exact landscaping
has not yet been determined.
Mr. Seymour questioned if there
could be a solid foundation feature.
Mr. Kelly stated they would be
constructed of architectural poles as opposed to solid
foundation.
Mr. Kraus stated he has no problems
after the Board of Zoning Appeals approved the variances.
Mr. Bergwall stated the development
merits larger signs because it is important to show this is COLEMAN’S CROSSING
and not the Wal-Mart shopping center.
Mr. Seymour stated he is resistant
to tall signs but would rather see panels side by side and not have the signs so
tall.
Mr. Kelly stated on SR 33 wanted
some height for the traffic going 65 MHP.
For the other two signs the reserve areas will not warrant width because
of utilities.
Mr. Griffin stated he appreciates
what BZA has done but feels the signs are wrong. He stated he realizes there are not sign
standards for these type of signs that hampers the
approval process, but 55’ is too tall.
The area will seem cluttered.
If too high can be negative impact to what you and the City are trying to
achieve. Not consistent with what
City has done. Disruptive to process – not necessary to have 38’ signs. Will set a bad
precedent. Doesn’t relate to
what is being done now.
Mr. Kelly stated it seems to be
fair to have taller signs and short monument signs for individual
lots.
Mr. Bergwall stated to some extent,
he feels same way. Supports them because nothing in City is of this scale and
magnitude. If more commercial developments happen they can have similar
size signs. However, individual
businesses should not be permitted to have such large
signs.
Mr. Kraus stated it is important to
marketing and development that all signs carry the same theme throughout the
development that states this is Coleman’s Crossing. All
the signs need to be consistent with the logo for Coleman’s
Crossing.
Mr. Cunningham made the motion to
approve the signs for Coleman’s Crossing as presented with the variances
approved by the Board of Zoning Appeals on January 10, 2005. Question put,
stood:
Mr. Cunningham
Yes Mr. Griffin
Yes Mr. Seymour Yes Mr. Kraus Yes Mr. Bergwall Yes
Home Depot –
To be located on Coleman’s Crossing
Blvd.
Steve Kelly reviewed the history of
this proposed project. He stated
Home Depot is a very strong tenant and feels other tenants will follow. Holds in high regard
to project. Came up with design to meet City’s code. Submitted first design that looked like
Sawmill’s store, which is a very typical design. Knowing they liked Marysville they felt
original store would be appropriate.
However, after meeting with administration, staff, and Planning
Commission members, they worked with Home Depot to come up with a new design
that has more architectural appeal.
We heard “bring Wal-Mart and this project together”, which they did. Went away from exposed aggregate and
introduced more split face block, CMU material, has orange trim, etc. Discussed materials
that were shown. Elevation –
many architectural features.
Contractor pick-up area is best attribute. They tried to do something to bring
material out as opposed to slope metal roof. Flows with rest of building – created an
entrance and appeal to this part of the building. 8’x8’ imprint to precast above CMU split
face block. CMU Wayne’s coating
along bottom near entrances. For
main entrance – 2 gables on either end give an entrance area. Repeats split face CMU and below lighter
color. Warm blend of colors being
used – earth “tonish”, precast concrete wall.
In garden center area – ornamental fences used that have columns. Standard garden center roofs – continues
to blend with building. Not all of
garden center has roof covering.
Back of building has brick imprint – split face CMU with Block
#2.
Mr. Bergwall stated it appears to
be like Hilliard’s Home Depot. Mr.
Kelly stated it is close.
Mr. Kelly continued with discussion
of the left elevation, stating the garden center towards Coleman’s
Crossing.
Along SR 33 is the short side of
building. This will blend when 2-3
restaurants develop between Home Depot and the Honda site. Mechanicals are on rooftop toward center
of building and are not in line of sight.
Mr. Seymour stated along S.R. 33
and Coleman’s Crossing there seems to be a mass of
wrought iron fencing. Questioned if this could be broken up with columns. Would enhance overall visual
appearance. Discussion held
concerning the nature of this business – will have forklifts, etc., being used
inside building.
Mr. Kelly stated ornamental
decorative fencing painted black with finished metal caps will be used around
garden center area. EIFS will be
used on top, light in color with smooth finished pre-cast split face CMU base
with 8”x8” brick pattern. Building
is located perpendicular to site.
Exterior lighting reviewed. Will be down lit
fixtures. Color to match
building. Will be
photometric lighting that has no glare and allows safety within the
site. Lighting goes down to
pavement. Color of lighting will
have a white color. Feels
uniformity in development is important.
Will not have
outdoor trash area. Will have trash
compactor inside building that compresses the boxes and
trash.
Board members agreed the design of
this building is unique and will be a building Marysville will be proud of. Board expressed appreciation with the
cooperation among everyone involved that resulted in such a good
result.
Mr. Griffin stated Coleman’s
Crossing is a showcase for Marysville with Honda,
Mr. Kraus asked to assure no chain
link fencing will be used. Mr.
Kelly stated NO CHAIN LINK.
Mr. Bergwall stated this design is
so much better than the first rendering.
Had opportunity to review plans more and looked at other stores. Comments summarized meet both letter and
spirit of code. Copies of Mr. Bergwall’s memo to be made part of
minutes.
Mr. Kelly stated all dialog with
all parties got us here tonight with this design. We now have a flavor for the future
buildings so we can talk openly about compatibility of future
projects.
Mr. Seymour stated that in Section
1144.02 “Intent” of the code, it states “Encourage superior design quality of
the City and strengthen civic pride in the aesthetic environment of
Marysville.” This has been
accomplished.
Mr. Kelly stated need to break
ground by May for a November opening date.
He stated that Home Depot has a process where they review the target area
for the proposed store where demographics, salary averages, market research,
projected sales and the general economics of the target area are reviewed to
determined best type of store for area.
After the research, it all led to this final
proposal.
Board members concurred all the
outside work done helped in this process.
Feels all the contact between the applicant, City, Planning Commission
members, staff members, helped this project be resolved in one meeting. It takes a lot of communication and
community involvement to make Planning Commission’s job easier.
Mr. Bergwall made the motion to
approve the plans received in City offices on January 11, 2005, for Home
Depot. Question put,
stood:
Mr. Cunningham
Yes Mr. Seymour Yes Mr. Kraus Yes Mr. Bergwall Yes Mr. Griffin Yes
MISCELLENOUS:
Mr. Kraus distributed proposed
language that needs to be added to the zoning code concerning “POD’s” (temporary
storage units that are dropped off, customer fills, and is then removed to a
storage area). Mrs. McCoy agreed
that an ordinance is needed because she has already received complaints that
some are parked on the street and residents have called in wanting to know how
long they can be located in the driveway.
Agreed to add this to list of upcoming agenda
items.
Also need to be reviewed/added to
the sign regulations is the commercial subdivision/industrial signs. Mrs. McCoy stated she will try to pull
samples off internet from other cities.
Discussion held on list of items
that need resolved by Planning Commission.
Requested the former list be reviewed and the following new items added
on all upcoming Planning Commission agenda:
Chapter 1135 revised to reflect lot density
POD’s regulations
Commercial subdivision/industrial identification
signs
ADJOURNMENT:
The
meeting was adjourned at 8:15 p.m.
Marysville Planning Commission
Design Review Process
January 12, 2005
Home Depot architectural design
review considerations based on code section 1144.04 definitions and 1144.10
Standards for Commercial & Office Design
Taking into consideration
the following perspective:
1.
2003 Code
requirements for commercial buildings concerning building materials, color,
architectural features and compatibility with the surrounding
area
2.
The intent for
Coleman’s Crossing to be the new commercial gateway to Marysville and
exposure to Route 33
3.
The desire from the
community and developers for Coleman’s Crossing to be a
“come to” commercial location populated by commercial establishments
that will service the needs of the community in a pleasing
manner.
4.
The desire to
get off to a rapid and successful start at Coleman’s Crossing with
quality commercial development
5.
The recognition
that Home Depot is on a schedule that provides a window of opportunity
that if missed could result in a multi-year delay for Marysville and could
impact other commercial clients strategies in Marysville
6.
The decisions
must be based on conformance with City codes and based on the best
interests short and long-term for the community
The following decision
points for the basis for a recommendation:
1.
The Home
Depot while a major commercial facility is a building supplies center
/ lumber yard and competes to some extent with 84 Lumber and
McAuliffe’s
2.
The building design
incorporates materials as specified in 1144.10 a.1 such as decorative block,
stucco in the form of EIFS, and contemporary durable materials in the form of
the brick embossed precast concrete panels. There is minimal use of aluminum or
metal siding and no vinyl. The
building meets the code requirements and spirit of the code, in my
opinion.
3.
The potential
should be viewed as real, that if Home Depot cannot get approval quickly to
maintain the window of opportunity they might pull out for sometime. This could affect more than just
loosing Home Depot and potentially deter other potentials at least for some
time.
Recommendation:
I would recommend approving
the design as modified (if any) after the discussion period this
evening.
The
recommendation is based on the fact that they meet the code requirements under
contemporary durable materials, and the architectural features incorporated in
the design. The nature of their
specific business and willingness to come into the development early, and
overall best interests and desires of the community become the basis for the
recommendation.