PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES

SPECIAL MEETING OF MONDAY, JANUARY 23, 2006

 

 

CALL TO ORDER:

 

The meeting was called to order at 6:30 pm.

 

MEMBERS PRESENT: 

 

Alan Seymour, Ken Kraus, Pete Griffin, Roger Yoder, John Cunningham and Don Bergwall.  Paula Bodey was excused.

 

OTHERS PRESENT:  

 

Steve Kelly (Bear Creek Capital), Justin Jehn (K4 Architecture) and Clerk Barb McCoy 

 

OLD BUSINESS:

 

New Retail Shopping Center (Best Buy) – north of Home Depot on Coleman’s Crossing Blvd. – filed by Bear Creek Capital, LLC (tabled from January 11th)

 

General Note:  The commission complimented the improvements that were returned to the board.  More brick over all, many trees  between the highway and building  to shield the less attractive building rear;  a third group of handicapped parking spaces were added; improvements to the front Best Buy portion to look more like the rest of the front; improvements to the sides and rear to look more like the rest of the building and more attractive on the highway side. Also, more split face block rather then smooth faced block.  They were disappointed that the blue "sail" was not reduced in size to fit within the best buy building face.

 

Steve Kelly representing Bear Creek Capital reviewed the resubmitted site plan, including landscape plan and revised elevations.  It was noted that the handicapped spaces were revised to show two additional spaces for the middle unit for a total of three locations.  The landscape plans are being submitted for Shade Tree Commission’s review.

 

Mr. Kelly stated that research has shown that the City of Marysville owns property where the access road is located.  The landscape plan shows evergreen trees planted in that location in order to add the additional trees for buffering.  There is a note shown on the site plan that tree placement will be coordinated with placement of adjacent Home Depot perimeter tree.  The site plan shows possible connection to Home Depot although they have not been in any discussion with them as of today.

 

Mr. Griffin noted that Home Depot’s property line has Chinese Elm trees (lace bark elm).

 

Mr. Kelly stated the finished floor for this building will be 5’ below existing mound.  Will be approximately 5’ higher than Home Depot’s building.

 

Board members concurred it should be noted for record that a driveway between Home Depot and Best Buy is desired.

 

The exterior elevations details were reviewed with it being noted that the Best Buy building has split face CMU at bottom; Sequoia brick above split face CMU; EIFS to match brick above brick; oyster shell in color EIFS and then Monastery brown EIFS.  Cannot get Best Buy to deviate from the blue sail but reversed it on the building.  The brick columns have been added.  The brick is an oversized utility brick.

 

Discussion was held on the color of mortar joints.  Mr. Kelly stated it would be the gray, natural color.  Board members agreed that would be better than trying to match the brick.

 

Mr. Bergwall noted the new drawings have some items omitted that should be included from the original drawing dated 12/23/05.

 

Mr. Jehn stated the square on the brick columns intended to be custom cast stone by boral brick, color natural.  This is an item that needs to be included on the drawings dated 1/20/06.

 

Discussion held on possibility of the blue “sail” being able to be removed and the front façade of the Best Buy building being remodeled if they should ever close their business.  It was noted according to Codified Ordinance 1144.08(d), any structure that has been approved through the Design Review process shall be subject to the provisions of the Design Review chapter for any subsequent exterior improvements or construction.

 

Mr. Kelly continued the review of the side and rear elevations noting on the rear of the back of front facades will be painted “oyster shell” to better blend with the building.  The mechanicals will be painted the same color.

 

Mr. Bergwall stated he still thinks mechanicals are still a concern from the rear elevation along US 33.  Would suggest screening around three sides closest to the road versus painting.

 

Mr. Kelly stated he is not opposed to screening but the purpose of not having a parapet is that the effect is more of an architectural feature than screening.  Feels paint is best approach.  Feel it is excessive cost after what they have done to rest of building.

 

Mr. Seymour stated parapet would also shield rubber roofing.  Discussion held concerning members’ preferences for parapet.  Members concurred parapet across back would accomplish screen.  Members individually were polled on their preference for a parapet – Mr. Bergwall stated yes, but would agree to screen equipment; Mr. Griffin stated yes, prefers parapet; Mr. Cunningham stated yes, wants parapet; Mr. Kraus, yes but would agree to screening equipment only; Mr. Seymour stated yes, wants parapet; Mr. Yoder yes, wants parapet.  General preference of Design Review Board – wants parapet.

 

Discussion held by Board members of importance of getting to the point where the buildings meet the Design Review ordinance.  It was noted that the Board should consider revising Chapter 1144.10(a)(4) where it states facades greater than 100’ feet in length should incorporate wall plane projections or recesses having a depth of at least 3% of the length of the façade and extending at least 20% of the length of the façade.  In cases like this building based on quality of material and location of building, the board is waiving this requirement. 

 

Mr. Kraus made the motion to approve this building with the following items noted:

 

·              Using elevation drawings dated 1/20/06, add all the items from the drawings dated 12/23/05 that were not changed

·              Waive 3% per 100’ rule based on quality of material and location of building

·              Encourage City to allow trees to be planted on property along US 33

·              Relocate a few trees to rear of building on left

·              Encourage very aggressive action with Home Depot for joint access between properties

·              If any dumpsters, enclosure to be constructed of split face block

·              Horizontal band above doors to be EIFS to match brick

·              Parapet to hide lower part of HVAC units and to hide roof

·              Complimentary color to match bay cream split face CMU

·              Paint HVAC units oyster shell

 

Question put, stood:

 

Mr. Yoder Yes  Mr. Seymour Yes  Mr. Kraus No (opposed to parapet)  Mr. Cunningham Yes  Mr. Griffin Yes Mr. Bergwall Yes

 

Suggestions made to review handicap parking regulations and the 3% issues in the Design Review Code.

 

NEW BUSINESS:

 

Amendment to Legislation - Changes to Chapter 1145, Planned Unit Development - currently on council agenda

 

Mr. Cunningham stated the commission passed a resolution forward to city council to amend chapter 1145.  At the second reading, which was the first meeting for the new council person Leah Sellers, she raised the concern that in the current wording of the statues that we have sections 1145.14 where we talk about criteria for recommendations by Planning Commission.  Toward the end of the language we have 1145.21 we have criteria for approval by Planning Commission.  Mrs. Sellers was concerned because there is a slight difference between the two.  In 1145.21 (4) was an additional component which reflects having to base any deviations on zoning districts in 1137.  Mr. Cunningham stated Mr. Kraus came up with recommended changes. 

 

Mr. Cunningham stated if you look at the e-mail from Mrs. Sellers, it shows what changes were discussed with her.  The first was a cross reference to be added to the front page of “Ohio Constitution, Art. XVII, Sec. 3”.  The second item was to add to section 1145.01 (b).  She suggested adding a nine and ten.  Nine to be: “To develop land in an orderly, coordinated and comprehensive manner that is consistent with accepted land planning, landscape architecture practices and engineering principles.”  Mr. Cunningham stated what this would give us would be addition leverage if we were to say no to a specific item or the PUD.  Number ten to be: “To pursue the housing and economic development goals of the city.”  Mr. Griffin asked if we had goals.  Mr. Cunningham stated there are the CHIP and CHIS plans and the comprehensive plan.

 

Mr. Cunningham stated Mrs. Sellers also suggested conforming 1145.14 to .21 with the addition of:  in (3) “The streets and thoroughfares proposed and affected are suitable and adequate…”  Mr. Kraus stated he changed it a little bit. 

 

Mr. Seymour asked if they were looking for comments.  He stated back in the addition of number (10) in 1145.01, he has a problem with the word “goals” because it implies there is something documented somewhere.  Mr. Cunningham stated there is.  Mr. Seymour asked if there was something to pursue the housing and economic development goals.  He stated he feels that word can be replaced with something better.  Mr. Cunningham suggested strategy.  Commission agreed.

 

Mr. Cunningham stated back to 1145.14 and .21.  Mr. Kraus changed the wording to read “streets and thoroughfares proposed within the PUD and those outside the PUD that are affected are suitable and adequate….”  Mr. Bergwall asked what the commission is going to do when they are not suitable.  Mr. Cunningham stated then you say no to the development. 

Mr. Kraus stated he thinks the biggest issue here is for things like, what is the time frame for getting a turn lane in and so on. 

 

Mr. Kraus stated in 1145.21 (2) and (4) were basically the same.  What I am suggesting is that we combine the two. 

 

Mr. Griffin asked if the commission is complicating things by trying to make amendments to the code when it is already through a second reading.  Would we be better off to say we want to move forward with what we already have and then come back and if we find it makes sense to rewrite it then we can.  Mr. Cunningham stated was going to be his point to Mrs. Seller’s suggestions.  I don’t think it is going to go through if we don’t make some accommodations.  I was going to make the suggestion to make the suggestions Mrs. Sellers requested originally.  As far as the other items she suggested changing, I don’t agree with them.

 

Mr. Cunningham stated Mrs. Seller’s suggestion to 1145.05, in which she stated doesn’t make sense to her; it is how it is currently in the code.  In 1145.10, Mrs. Sellers question why the city should pay for the notice.  Mr. Cunningham stated this gives the city control of what goes in the paper.  In 1145.15, Mrs. Sellers, stated she wants to strike the last sentence because the language could gear a developer up for litigation against the city.  The last sentence in 1145.15 is, “If the PUD is disapproved, the reasons for disapproval shall be stated by city council for the record.”  Mr. Cunningham stated if council does not state the reason for disapproval, how are they going to be able to fix it. 

 

Mr. Cunningham stated Mrs. Sellers goes on in her e-mail that she would like to add to 1145.15 the following: ‘Disapproval by City Council shall terminate the process.  Another zoning amendment application pertaining to the land included in the disapproved application shall not be accepted within one year from the date of disapproval, unless there has been substantial change to warrant reconsideration.’  He stated what this does is not allow this to be zoned anything.  Mr. Seymour stated it leaves it too open ended.  Mr. Cunningham asked why a year.  Mr. Kraus stated it only terminates the process if the applicant does not agree to make the changes requested by council.  Mr. Yoder asked what the intent of the one year delay is.  Mr. Seymour stated we don’t want to play hard ball. 

 

Mr. Kraus stated as Mr. Cunningham mentioned, these items were not discussed.  Mr. Cunningham stated his suggestion is to go to city council and state we are willing to make the changes as we discussed, and we are more than willing to take the other suggested changes back and consider them.  However, we would like to get this current proposed language in place and then we can tweak it with the other changes after approval. 

 

Mr. Seymour stated the commission has heard comments that the commission makes the system too complex and our desire now it to not make it complex. 

 

Mr. Kraus stated he disagrees with Mrs. Sellers on 1145.22.  The whole intent is for the applicant to go to council one time. 

 

Mr. Cunningham stated in 1145.18 she wants the commission to report back to them and tell them there are these non subtenant changes.  He stated the commission’s records are public; they will be able to look at a copy of the minutes. 

 

Mr. Bergwall stated he knows of at least one council person who is not comfortable that they are only getting one shot at this.  Mr. Kraus stated council has always has just one shot. 

 

Mr. Bergwall asked if Mrs. Sellers can make the recommendations for change and council amend it themselves and move on with the process.  Mr. Cunningham stated yes. 

 

Mr. Cunningham asked if the commission should make a motion as a group to agree with Mrs. Sellers suggested amendments and as a group defer on consideration of her subsequent suggestions.  Mr. Seymour stated that he would rather have it in a general consensus form. 

 

Discussion held on how the commission’s opinion on these changes will be presented to city council.

 

Commission set next meeting for Feb. 2nd to continue discussion on the new design review process. 

 

INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER COMMENTS:

 

All commissioners declined comment.

 

ADJOURNMENT:

 

Meeting was adjourned.