DESIGN REVIEW BOARD

MINUTES OF MEETING

APRIL 12, 2006

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:  Alan Seymour, Pete Griffin, Roger Yoder, John Cunningham, Don Bergwall and Ken Kraus.  There is one vacancy.

 

OTHERS PRESENT:  Jason Isaacs, Dan Navin, and Clerk Barb McCoy

 

The meeting was called to order at 6:30 pm. 

 

APPROVAL OF MINUTES: 

 

The minutes from the meeting of March 8, 2006 were approved with minor changes.

 

ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS:  None

 

ORGANIZATION:

 

Rules of Procedure:

 

Mr. Kraus made the motion to amend #5 as follows:

 

    Unless conflicts of interest are recognized, each member of the Board shall be required to vote upon all questions before the Board.  When such conflicts are recognized the member may leave the room or at a minimum refrain from any conversation or discussion of the issue.

 

Question put, stood:

 

Mr. Kraus Yes  Mr. Bergwall Yes  Mr. Cunningham No  Mr. Yoder Yes  Mr. Griffin Yes  Mr. Seymour No

 

Add # 11 – At a minimum the motion must have a majority of 4 votes in order to pass excluding abstentions.

 

Add #12 – The Design Review Board chairman may appoint Ad hoc committees as necessary to deal with matters needing attention.  These committees shall then report their findings back to the Design Review Board as a whole.  After the matter has been addressed, the committee may be dissolved by majority vote from the Board.  Committee meetings must be advertised at least 48 hours prior to the meeting.  Minutes for the committee will be done by a member of the committee and a copy give to the Design Review Board Secretary.

 

Mr. Kraus made the motion to approve the Rules of Procedure as changed.  Question put, stood:

 

Mr. Bergwall Yes  Mr. Cunningham No  Mr. Yoder Yes  Mr. Griffin Yes  Mr. Seymour No  Kraus Yes

 

Election of Chairman:

 

    Mr. Cunningham nominated Alan Seymour for Chairman of the Design Review Board.  Voice vote was unanimous.

 

Election of Vice-Chairman:

 

    Mr. Griffin nominated Ken Kraus.  Voice vote was unanimous for Ken Kraus to be vice-chairman of the Design Review Board.

 

Mr. Cunningham recommended the Rules of Procedures be made available at all meetings.

 

NEW BUSINESS:

 

Office Park – Navin Office Park – 17720 SR 4 (intersection of SR 4 and Scott Farms Blvd.) – filed by Isaacs Enterprises for Kevin Cowgill

 

Discussion was held of whether this agenda item should include all three buildings that remain – Buildings #2, 3, and 4.  Although they are similar in material and design, it is unclear how the final building design will look with buildings #2 and 4 to be wider than building #3.  They may have a need for more dormers or cupolas.

 

Mr. Isaacs stated the plan is to have 3 dormers and 2 cupolas on buildings #2 and 4 and 2 dormers and one cupola on building #3.

 

Mr. Isaacs stated his main concern is that it takes an application fee each time he has to submit to the Design Review Board.  Mrs. McCoy stated they can consider the future buildings an amendment to this original request.

 

Voice vote was unanimous to look at this agenda item as only building #3 for approval.

 

Mr. Kraus stated he is still concerned about handicap parking for building #3.  Discussion held on the approval of site plan for this site.  Because of slope of parking lot, storm drainage, etc., the board permitted the handicap spaces to be left as requested.  Mr. Kraus stated if the spaces are not moved to in front of the front door, he would only have one way to vote.  Feels they should not put handicap spaces out in the back 40.  Stated he is very displeased with this decision.

 

Mr. Isaacs reviewed the building material stating cultured limestone will be installed across the bottom like Building #1.  The stone will be laid randomly with some sort of order.  It was noted the wainscot for building #1 is 3’-4’  and the wainscot for building #3 (also for #2 and 4) will go up past first level - approximately 8’-9’. 

 

Mr. Bergwall stated it is important to assure the source they are obtaining the limestone from will guarantee stone will be available to match the last buildings when they are constructed.  Mr. Isaacs state he will check the availability for the future.

 

Mr. Seymour stated the vent shown on the side of the building should be size proportionate and material should be of quality material.  Mr. Griffin commented the vent should be compatible with window size.

 

Mr. Isaacs stated 30-year dimensional shingles will be used.  The same will be used for all four buildings.  Downspouts and gutters will be all white.  Each building will have a lit cupola with a gentle glow effect.  A 12” standard overhang will be used all the way around the building.

 

Mr. Seymour stated the overhangs for dormers and cupolas should be proportionate to the sizes used.  He stated he has a concern of overhangs not being used to keep in contrast with horse barn flavor they stated they are trying to achieve.

 

Mr. Isaacs stated all wood windows will be used with white exterior.  A white hardy plank will be used.  The front porch will have two columns with wood trim material above the stone.  There will be an arch over the front door.  Underneath will be a flat soffitt material, to be same material as rest of building.

 

Mr. Seymour asked if building #3 has same impact from SR 4 as building #4 will have.  He stated he is concerned with the south elevation because the door is not enhanced in any way.

 

Mr. Isaacs stated they can use trim material to wrap the door which gives more of a bold look as opposed to it looking like a service door.  He stated for exterior lighting lamp posts will be used in front of buildings #2, 3, and 4 by the walk.  There will be three lamp posts additionally in the landscape area in the middle of the parking lot.  There will be no lighting mounted to the building.

 

Mr. Bergwall stated he is concerned with no parking lot lights because in the winter months it will get dark earlier.

 

Mr. Cunningham questioned who currently owns the property.  Mr. Isaacs stated Dr. Cowgill has purchased the remaining 8 acres but they still have the same plans except there may be more office buildings on the east side of the property with fewer homes.

 

Mr. Griffin stated he remembers the discussion with City Council when it was said this project better turn out like what was discussed with no major changes.  Planning Commission had discussed two different zoning districts for this very reason.  City Council stated if anything different is proposed for this area there will be a lot of unhappiness.

 

Mr. Cunningham stated the same thing applies to the Weinlein property.  What they are proposing to do today is not what they HAVE to do.  They can come back and do whatever they want according to the zoning code.

 

Mr. Isaacs stated they are not trying to do anything underhanded; this opportunity has come up with Dr. Cowgill and they sold the property.

 

Mr. Seymour commented in the letter from Isaacs Enterprises dated March 30, 2006, the references to buildings #2 and 4 need to be removed from the letter.

 

Discussion was held concerning proposed signs for this development.  Mr. Isaacs stated the main signs will be at the entrance in landscape area #4 and #3.  Will have “Navin Office Park”.  Building #3 will have a small one at the front door with removable slots to denote who tenants are.  Signage will all be green with gold letters on all buildings.  Some tenants may want their logos on side of building #3.  It was noted all signs are to be submitted and approved by the zoning inspector.

 

It was noted the dumpster enclosure is required to be at least 1’ higher than the dumpster.

 

Mr. Griffin made the motion to approve the request for building #3 with the following:

 

·        Approval for building #3 only

·        Buildings #2 & 4 can be made a part of this application as amendment in the future with no fee

·        Cultured stone to be used for wainscoting that will be 8’-9’

·        Size of false vents and overhangs on cupolas and dormers to be size proportionate

·        Out door lighting to consist of one post light for this building

·        Door on south side of building to be enhanced

 

The question put, stood:

 

Mr. Cunningham Yes Mr. Yoder Yes Mr. Griffin Yes  Mr. Seymour Yes  Mr. Kraus No  Mr. Bergwall Yes

 

COMMENTS OF INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS:

 

Mr. Bergwall stated the agenda item that was tabled at last month’s meeting for the 4-unit apartment building on Taylor Avenue is required to be on this agenda because it was stated in the minutes as such.

 

Mr. Cunningham made the motion to add the agenda item New Multi-Family Building – to be located at the northeast corner of Taylor Avenue and SR 4 – filed by Isaacs Enterprises.  Voice vote was unanimous.

 

After discussion, Mr. Isaacs requested this agenda item be tabled until the July meeting.  Mr. Kraus made the motion to table this item until the July meeting unless applicant requests it be put on the agenda at an earlier meeting.  Voice vote was unanimous to table.

 

Mr. Griffin stated that Planning Commission has to be more careful how they look at projects.  Things happen with property owners.  They need to know more specific information that is relative enough to the zoning.  Not intention of this Commission or Council to let commercial go beyond a certain section of the property on Scott Farms Blvd.  He stated that the property has changed hands for Keystone Crossing to Maronda Homes.  As Planning Commission goes forward you must remember you cannot assume when reviewing plans for project that the land will not be sold to someone else.

 

Mrs. McCoy stated when approval is given it goes with the land, not developer.

 

Mr. Cunningham stated the Design Review Board has not really reviewed signs but so far they have been nice.  Keep in mind the design review ordinance states they should be low profile.  Mrs. McCoy stated she is required to follow the sign ordinance.

 

Mr. Seymour stated he is still concerned with the lack of details in the request items.

 

Mr. Kraus stated he is concerned with handicap parking locations.  Is going to meet with Phil Roush to see if applicants can be informed up front what Design Review Board wants.  Also, wants an agenda item for the May meeting to rezone property on Scott Farms Blvd. to R-2 before anything gets done with the east property.

 

Mr. Yoder stated he noticed on the site plan for Navin Office Park that sidewalks are not required along SR4.  Discussion held on some of the reasons why sidewalks are not a good idea for this project – future widening of S.R. 4, county drainage ditches, etc. 

 

Mrs. McCoy stated she has potentially two zoning issues for the May agenda – Morey Drive and E. 4th Street – where zoning is split on single parcels.  She has noted she will include the Isaacs property on S.R. 4/Scotts Farm Blvd. for zoning amendment also.

 

ADJOURNMENT:  The meeting was adjourned at 8:25 p.m.