PLANNING COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING

MINUTES OF MEETING JUNE 14, 2006

 

CALL TO ORDER:

 

The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:28 p.m.   

 

PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT:

 

Roger Yoder, John Cunningham, Ken Kraus, Don Bergwall.  Alan Seymour and Pete Griffin- absent.   1 vacancy.

 

OTHERS PRESENT: None

 

DISCUSSION ITEMS:

 

Code Changes – replacing Shade Tree Commission and Architectural Review Board throughout the code

 

Mr. Kraus stated in 1105.09, number six, states detailed landscape plan recommended by the Shade Tree Commission.  He stated that because we are dealing with subdivisions and street trees not site trees, it should be reviewed and approved by the Planning Commission.  With residential all we deal with is street trees.  If it is a commercial development, like Coleman’s Crossing, the street trees are what we would deal with.  When the site is developed, the Design Review Board gets into the site landscaping and trees. 

 

Mr. Bergwall stated he agrees this is listed under information for Preliminary Plat and therefore should be Planning Commission not Design Review.

 

Mr. Kraus stated number six should state, …. Planning and Zoning to be reviewed and approved by the Planning Commission.  Delete recommended. 

 

Mr. Kraus stated in 1109.18 it should also state Planning Commission since it is in the subdivision regulations.  Commission agreed.

 

In 1139.23 (b), Mr. Kraus stated he doesn’t know who should deal with it.  Mr. Cunningham asked if it could be the responsibility of the zoning inspector.

 

Mr. Bergwall stated it is going to depend on when the pump stations are put in.  If it is put in as part of a development, like in the Oaks, it will be part of the plat and Planning Commission would take care of it.  If it is something the City adds then it should be handled through the administration, unless there is going to be a structure built then it would go through Design Review.

 

Discussion held on who should be responsible for it.

 

Mr. Kraus stated because this falls within the zoning code and not the Design Review chapter it should be the responsibility of the Planning Commission.  Mr. Cunningham stated by default it is Planning Commission.

 

Mr. Kraus stated in 1142.04 they can go through Design Review.  Commission agreed.

 

Mr. Kraus stated with 1143.15 (a), Variances, it needs to be Design Review.  Commission agreed.

 

Mr. Kraus stated in 1143.15 (b) Architectural Review Board should be deleted.  Commission agreed.

 

Mr. Kraus stated in 1143.20, there is a list that lists Architectural Review Board.  Commission doesn’t know why. 

 

Commission asked administrative staff to take a look at it.

 

Commission asked that these changes be made and it be placed on the agenda for the July meeting.

 

General Issues

 

Mr. Kraus stated we have received POD information and information on commercial subdivision signage.

 

Mr. Bergwall stated on the POD information received, I didn’t find many that were good examples.  We need to figure out what we want out of it.

 

Mr. Yoder stated bits and pieces of each were good, and would have to be complied to get what we are after.

 

Mr. Bergwall asked are we going to distinguish between what is actually a POD vs. a dumpster sitting in someone’s front driveway while they are having renovation work done.

 

Mr. Cunningham stated there needs to be time limits on the dumpsters as well. 

 

Mr. Bergwall stated we need to spell out the basic things we want protection for and then write something up.

 

Mr. Yoder stated the dumpsters are a separate issue.  We were really looking for regulations on POD’s.

 

Mr. Kraus stated it may be a matter of definition. 

 

Mr. Bergwall stated the one he thought was closest to being okay was the one from Sunny Isles Beach, Florida.  We would need to take out the paragraph about the tropical storm warnings and hurricanes. 

 

Mr. Yoder stated he thinks this needs to be assigned to a commission member to come up with some recommended language.

 

Mr. Cunningham stated the next item was commercial park signage.  He stated he liked what Mr. Kraus wrote.

 

Mr. Kraus stated Mrs. McCoy had a comment about permitting signage for a shopping center offsite.  He stated to make sure things are clear there needs to be a definition of a commercial park.  He stated he thinks it is something that has to go through the subdivision process.  It is not a shopping center. 

 

Mr. Bergwall stated he is not sure you need a sign at each vehicular access.  Mr. Kraus asked what about Coleman’s Crossing.  Mr. Bergwall stated we may want to consider putting something in that says you can have more than one if the entrances are more than XXX ft. apart.  If you are talking about signs that are 25 ft. tall, and if they are 500’ to 600’ apart, do you need more than one.  Mr. Cunningham stated no. 

 

Mr. Kraus stated what we should do is provide some standard code with reasonable limitations for the vehicular entrances.  If they want to have additional signage say along the freeway, let them go to BZA,

 

Mr. Kraus stated it will state one for each primary access.  Mr. Yoder asked if Coleman’s Crossing would qualify for two primary vehicular entrances.  Mr. Kraus stated yes.  City Gate would have one primary vehicular access.

 

Mr. Kraus stated there is something in the code under industrial park identification signs that states no other free standing identification sign in the development shall be located within 100’ of the road or street on which the industrial park has vehicular access.  He stated when looking at a commercial park, once the Coleman’s Crossing sign went up it prohibits any signs along Delaware such as Applebees.

 

Mr. Cunningham stated Applebees is not part of the Coleman’s Crossing development.  Mr. Yoder stated no, it’s not.

 

Mr. Bergwall stated he does not mind the 100’ distance. 

 

Mr. Kraus stated don’t forget these signs have to be outside the road right-of-way. 

 

Mr. Kraus stated he will come up with a definition of commercial park and also one for industrial park.  He stated he will change it to say one for each primary entrance

 

INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS:

 

Alan Seymour

Ken Kraus

Don Bergwall

Pete Griffin

Roger Yoder

John Cunningham

 

ADJOURNMENT: