FINANCE COMMITTEE
MEETING
SEPTEMBER 20,
2005
The meeting was called to
order by Dan Fogt at 5:30 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dan Fogt, Ed Pleasant, Nevin
Taylor
OTHERS PRESENT: Kathy House, Phil Roush, John Morehart,
John Green, Tracie Davies, Doris McCarty, David Creviston, Tom Bulcher, John
Mastracchio, Ryan Horns, Steve Stolte, Jenny Snapp, Andy Brossart, Don Bergwall,
Lloyd Baker
Agenda:
1)
2004 Audit
Update
Mr. Morehart reported that
the 2004 Audit has been completed.
A post-audit review was requested for the October 11th Finance
Committee Meeting.
2)
Trash Collection
Contract
Mr. Morehart stated the
trash contract expires at the end of this year. He distributed copies of info that was
distributed to the bidders. It was
done a little differently this year, giving them two options to bid if they so
choose. Bid 1 will continue with
the current volume base pricing arrangement; Bid 2 will be as if the City would
make some changes to that, possibly consider changes to the volume base pricing
such as a flat rate or any other alternative to the current volume based
pricing. Preliminary discussion
with the Mayor indicates he has some reservations about changing the current
arrangement, but did give the green light to proceed with at least soliciting a
second bid. There are advantages
and disadvantages to both. Volume
based pricing has been in effect since the early 90’s. Bids will be opened on September
26th. No bids have
been received to date.
Mr. Creviston questioned
why the Board of Control opens the bids.
Feels Council should be in control of the contract and award the
contract. Feels there are numerous
problems, Codified Ordinance is outdated, typos in the contract, Mayor can’t
make the award; he’s the signatory agent, director of administration should not
make decision to approve a sublet of the contract. He asked the City to withdraw the
bids.
3)
LUC Planning Commission
Membership
Ms. House distributed
information from LUC and MORPC showing the benefits and resources available to
the City from each organization, as well as the cost for membership. She has been very pleased with services
from MORPC. Feels LUC offers some
resources that are not available through MORPC. A lot of services
available through MORPC are not
needed due to the City’s in-house resources. She suggesting
setting aside some money in the budget for memberships in both. Possibly talk to LUC about a modified
type of membership which would limit some services or privileges, but would
allow the City to be involved or be an active participant with both
associations.
Memberships are based on
per capita for our population. Each
organization calculates population a little differently. Per capita through MORPC is $.43 and LUC
is $.82.
Steve Stolte,
Mr. Fogt asked, since
Marysville is not a member of LUC, if it had any influence on anything happening
outside the City. Mr. Stolte said
no. If the City was a member of
LUC, it would have a vote on anything happening outside the City. Mr. Fogt noted that as a big advantage,
but $13,000 is quite a bit of money.
He agreed with Mr. Stolte that we need to plan better and noted the
comprehensive plan is old. Probably
need a new comprehensive plan which the City and County could work on
together.
Jenny Snapp, Director of
Planning for LUC, addressed the Committee.
LUC has continued to grow and increase services over the last couple of
years. Feels LUC membership
provides a lot of expertise on various issues. The value of the LUC organization and
the membership is in the inter-governmental communications and also the
networking and being a part of the community.
4)
Sewer Rate
Discussion
Mr. Tom Bulcher and Mr.
John Mastracchio attended representing Malcolm Pirnie. Mr. Mastracchio showed the committee how
they arrived at the proposed sewer rate increases. He also shared a couple of alternatives
that were considered, but not proposed.
Financial model #1 - Since City is
issuing bond anticipation notes to pay for the majority of the sewer
improvements, Malcolm Pirnie has established a debt
service coverage target. Coverage
is the amount above the debt service that needs to be maintained in order to
satisfy the note and bond holders.
The rates are set with a coverage requirement of 1.1, meaning that you
need to have that .1 extra in revenue associated with providing that security to
the note and bond holders. That is
one of the constraints that is being shown.
The other constraint is the
capital improvement program that has been developed. In FY2006, chart shows $115M in capital
projects associated with the new wastewater treatment plant, as well as other
piping infrastructure plus some capital outlay. FY2009, $35M for some additional
improvements that have been identified through the master study process
completed last year. It’s a
combination of the coverage requirements, the capital improvement program and
working capital, which is cash available to fund projects that drive the rate
increase requirements down. He
noted rate revenue increases of 17-1/2 in FY2006 and 17.1 in 2007 & 2008 to
pay for these projects. He noted it
was pretty level across the three years.
One of the things that was considered when that
was generated was not having a more significant spike in one of those three
years. It was considered to smooth
out the rate increase requirements over those three years. He showed a model without the smoothing
approach with rates calculated in a just-in-time basis.
Mr. Pleasant noted the
three spikes with the fourth and fifth year being lower. What affect does five years of
equalization do vs. the three spikes and two lower years? Mr. Mastraccho stated one of the
problems with spreading it out over five years is that you actually need the
money earlier. Spreading it out
over five years is difficult because of the constraints you have in those
earlier years.
Financial model #2 –
(eliminating the smoothing) Shows a very small rate increase
in 2006, but the problem is 2007 and 2008 with a 30% rate in 2007 and a 23% rate
increase in 2008. Instead of having
these two years of large increases, felt it would make sense to smooth out the
rates over the three year period and generate a little bit more cash that could
be used to fund some of the projects later on.
Mr. Pleasant asked, over
the five-year period, is there an increase percentage of one model over another.
Response: From a financial
standpoint, they are equivalent.
Mr. Fogt asked Mr. Brossart
(5/3 Securities) if there was any preference? He responded that this is driven by the
City’s ability to place this debt in the market. He set the model up as they started
through this process and are at the barebones minimum for coverage factors for
what the market will allow. He said
they squeaked by the 110 coverage factor in
Per Mr. Pleasant’s request,
Mr. Brossart gave a little background/history of his involvement with the City
of
Mr. Pleasant asked if there
were any other possibilities to help lower any of the percentages. Mr. Brossart responded currently
not. You always have the ability to
do tap-in fees, but the problem with those is when anyone investing in your
bonds looks at those, those are one time hits and if your growth does not
continue to expand, that revenue stream might shrink. The only guarantee that they are going
to get their money back is through the rates charged to the customers. The tap-in fees should be in place to
help pay or buy down any future borrowings in the future to help keep the rates
down. This model indicates that in
the future those will come in over time, but in terms for this rate increase
now, that’s not going to be an immediate impact. It will be an impact for future growth
of the system to help pay for that.
Tap-in fees are part of the formula, but not just the major portion. The 110 coverage factor is set up in a
way at the bare minimum for where the rates can be too and where tap-in fees can
be at as well.
Mr. Pleasant asked if
tap-in fees are increased and we have an above average number of tap-in fees,
called excess off of the model, does that affect the overall end product. Does it affect the overall length of pay
down of debt? Mr. Brossart
responded that in the future if the City had excess cash flow coming in, you
could pay down. It would help to
keep the rate increases down after this five-year period.
Mr. Fogt asked Mr. Brossart
if other cities used impact fees to help with wastewater treatment plants. Mr. Brossart responded that he has been
told over and over that impact fees in the state of
Mr. Pleasant asked Mr.
Mastracchio to give a little background on his position with Malcolm
Pirnie. He works with Malcolm
Pirnie’s financial services practice.
Has worked for Malcolm Pirnie for about 3-1/2
years. Prior to that, he
worked for Arthur Anderson. He has
been working with Marysville from the beginning of the Master Study up to this
point. He exclusively does this
type of work for utilities helping with financial planning, master plans and
rate setting.
Mr. Pleasant asked if he
saw anything that was being overlooked? He does not see anything that can be
done to lower the rates with the constraint that tap-in revenues cannot be used
towards coverage. Since that’s the
case, increasing tap-in fees will potentially increase cash balances for future
expenditures, but won’t do anything to reduce those rate increases in the short
term.
Mr. Fogt asked Mr. Brossart
if we were to level off the increases a little more over the five years, i.e.
12% increase per year over five years, would that hurt the City’s borrowing
ability or rating? Mr. Mastracchio responded that 12% over
five years would mean that coverage requirements would not be met in all five
years and felt the note and bond holders would have a problem with it. Mr. Brossart added that it would be in
violation of the Master Trust Indenture that the City must sign into when bonds
are issued. We’re at the minimum
110 coverage factor that the market allows at this time.
If
we go below the 110 coverage factor and you don’t come back and raise your
rates, then they can come in and force you to do that. Mr. Mastracchio said that the rates
being proposed are at the minimum in order to meet all requirements.
Mr. Don Bergwall addressed
the Committee. There is no question
in his mind that rates will have to be significantly increased and that it will
be an ongoing program. He expressed
a concern in the interest of being as fair as possible overall, and noted
articles of foreclosures of homes.
When a home goes into foreclosure, he asked who would be paying the sewer
and water for that vacant home. In
cases likes these, revenues would not be received as forecasted. Another concern is impact fees and not
being able to (inaudible). He noted
the City has a Parkland Fee for every new development. This provides for the expansion,
acquisition and maintenance of parks.
He does not understand why the City can’t have an infrastructure fee that
can provide for specific items on improvements in the infrastructure of the City
such as, wastewater treatments, streets, etc. Possibly specific items could be listed
as a use for these funds. Something
else that should be considered is whether the tap-in fees are really
adequate. He realizes they must be
justified, but they need to be reviewed. The tap-in fees for residents are based
on a line, a meter and one equivalent residential fee. When you have multiple units, such as an
apartment complex, rates are structured on the meter size. He gave an example of a 90-unit
apartment complex which has a 3” meter supply to that complex, so they are
paying for 15 equivalent meter fees for a 3” line. There are 90 units consuming water,
dumping sewage, and they are paying the equivalent of 15 residents. He does not feel this is equal or fair
to long-time residents of Marysville to see more growth along those lines,
paying those kinds of fees, as opposed to getting it more equalized. He’s merely looking for opportunities to
create some revenue, and if it slows down growth, it doesn’t seem like it would
be a real deterrent to this, but at least we’re doing more of a fair-share
pay.
Mr. Fogt noted Mr.
Mastracchio had done a comparison of tap-in fees with other central
have no affect on rate
increases. Mr. Fogt and Mr.
Pleasant would like to take another look at the tap-in
fees.
Mr. Fogt asked how tap-in
fees are distributed. The money
from tap-in fees is used for only capital projects, no maintenance. There are four separate capital funds,
two capital funds for water and sewer and two incremental funds for capital
improvements.
Mr. Steve Stolte addressed
the Committee. He stated he was
impressed with the level of detail and effort that everyone has put into this in
examining the different alternatives.
It’s never easy to raise rates.
He appreciated the hard questions asked by the Committee.
Mr. Tom Bulcher, Malcolm
Pirnie. He has been the project
manager for all the wastewater projects for the City over the last two
years. He provided comments for the
city’s NPDS permit renewal then project manager for the wastewater master study
and currently is project manager for the wastewater facility’s design.
Mr. Fogt asked Mr. Bulcher
if he felt the City was doing it the right way, not cutting corners, etc. Mr. Bulcher agreed. It’s the correct way and the practical
way. Currently
looking at building a 6 MGP with a possibility of taking bids for an 8
MGP. If
price for the 8 MGP comes in reasonable, will build an 8 MGP.
Ms. Doris McCarty addressed
the Committee. She asked if this
new plant is built, was the future projected growth of Marysville taken into
account? Response was yes. Mr. Bulcher stated when looking at the
master study, they recommended purchase of a site that
would accommodate growth for the next 40 years. Potentially there is room on this site
to treat up to 24 MGD, which is not anticipated anywhere in the near
future. It is set up to expand in
even increments. The plant is being
set up so it can be readily expanded in a very orderly
fashion.
Mr. Fogt stated the $110M
is for the initial construction and the collection pipe going from the old plant
to the new plant. In 2010, there is
a plan to put another pipe in, which would go from the cemetery out around the
western edge of the city, around Timber Trails to
Mr. Fogt asked if there
were any other spikes expected in those next 16-20 years? Mr.
Mastracchio said there is another spike in 2011 or 2012, depending on when plant
expansion occurs, to pay for that second $110M. Growth will dictate when that will
occur. He recommended monitoring
growth, the timing of when the capital improvements need to be made and look for
ways, such as making sure tap-in fees are appropriately priced, so that you
mitigate and minimize the rate impacts over the long term.
Mr. Bergwall stated from
the comments just made, growth needs to pay for growth in the future. This $110 million dollars should not be
a burden on the existing community of Marysville; it should be a burden on the
growth that created the need for the expansion. He feels there has been a lot of good work done and a lot of effort made to
minimize the impact to the City to end up with something that not only
accommodates the near term, but long term needs. He applauded the efforts that everyone
has put forward. Definitely need to
look at tap-in fees and impact fees so that future burden is not placed on
existing citizens.
Mr. Andy Brossart commented
that he lives in
Mr. Lloyd Baker addressed
the committee. He agreed with Mr.
Stolte’s comments on the poor planning that has occurred throughout recent
history in the city and noted the Rt. 38 relocation project. He mentioned a comment made by Mr.
Marshall for the potential for this becoming a “cash cow”. He shared those concerns. How monitored is this project going to
be for quality assurance to make sure along the way that we do get what is
needed. Feels it’s very important
on this project that there be adequate internal controls and monitoring as this
project develops, which has not been done in the past.
In
closing, Mr. Fogt commented he feels Malcolm Pirnie is a top-notch engineering
firm. Feels they are looking at
every aspect and they will do top quality work. Feels the construction will be monitored
as well to a high degree. “We can’t
do this wrong. If we do this wrong,
it’s just going to be terrible.”
Meeting adjourned at 7:00
p.m.